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Line Tests


Almost every line commonly used for carp fishing has an under-rated breaking strain indicated on the spool or box. With a good knot, most line will always break at a higher strain.

With no international guidelines for indicating breaking strain or diameter, manufacturers under-rate lines to different degrees. A line labelled as 12lb from one Company may consistently break around 20lb; a line labelled as 12lb from a different Company may regularly break at just 14lb.

To give a better idea of the specifications of lines we sell we have tested breaking strains and diameters ourselves. We took line from different points on the spool and measured breaking strains five times using a Salter tension and compression tester, and diameters using a high quality digital caliper. Breakage tests were conducted with five turn grinner knots and a knotless knot to mimic what the average angler uses.

Braid diameters shown below are as accurate as possible, but unlike nylon lines some braids do not have round profiles. Each spool of line was tested brand new, but we accept that performance of all lines varies with age and different batches of lines supplied to shops may show slight differences in performance. However we hope the chart will provide useful general guidance.

Make of Line Stated Strain Average Strain Stated Diameter Measured Diameter

NYLON
Fox Soft Steel 8lb 11.88lb 0.27mm 0.27mm
10lb 14.88lb 0.30mm 0.30mm
12lb 17.88lb 0.34mm 0.34mm
15lb 22.63lb 0.39mm 0.39mm
Shimano Catana 8lb 14.13lb 0.28mm 0.28mm
10lb 16lb 0.30mm 0.30mm
12lb 18.88lb 0.33mm 0.33mm
15lb 20.5lb 0.35mm 0.35mm
Nash Bullet XT 10lb 13.63lb 0.29mm 0.30mm
12lb 18.75lb 0.35mm 0.35mm
15lb 24.5lb 0.38mm 0.40mm
18lb 31.5lb 0.43mm 0.45mm
Sufix Synergy 10lb 12.38lb 0.28mm 0.28mm
12lb 12.75lb 0.30mm 0.30mm
15lb 18.25lb 0.35mm 0.34mm
20lb 25.63lb 0.40mm 0.41mm
Daiwa Sensor Brown 6lb 8.5lb 0.235mm 0.22mm
8lb 10.75lb 0.26mm 0.25mm
10lb 14.63lb 0.31mm 0.30mm
12lb 16.5lb 0.33mm 0.32mm
15lb 17.63lb 0.37mm 0.36mm
Daiwa Sensor Clear 8lb 10.12lb 0.26mm 0.25mm
10lb 15.87lb 0.31mm 0.30mm
12lb 16.75lb 0.33mm 0.32mm
15lb 21.37lb 0.37mm 0.35mm
ESP Carp Mono 8lb 13.63lb 0.30mm 0.29mm
10lb 16lb 0.32mm 0.32mm
12lb 17lb 0.35mm 0.34mm
15lb 22.13lb 0.37mm 0.36mm
18lb 26.13lb 0.40mm 0.41mm
Gardner GT 80 Dark 10lb 14.15lb 0.30mm 0.30mm
12lb 17.5lb 0.35mm 0.34mm
15lb 21.25lb 0.40mm 0.40mm
Gardner GT 80 Light 10lb 14lb 0.30mm 0.30mm
12lb 17.25lb 0.35mm 0.33mm
15lb 20.75lb 0.40mm 0.39mm
Kryston-ite 8lb 8.62lb 0.25mm 0.24mm
10lb 13.62lb 0.29mm 0.28mm
12lb 13.75lb 0.31mm 0.30mm
15lb 16.12lb 0.36mm 0.35mm
18lb 22.5lb 0.41mm 0.40mm
TF Gear Gunsmoke Carp 6lb 7.5lb 0.245mm 0.24mm
8lb 10.87lb 0.275mm 0.27mm
10lb 14.5lb 0.303mm 0.29mm
12lb 17.5lb 0.355mm 0.345mm
15lb 22.62lb 0.399mm 0.40mm
TF Gear Disguise Invisilink 8lb 12.5lb 0.28mm 0.28mm
10lb 13.5lb 0.30mm 0.29mm
12lb 15.38lb 0.35mm 0.33mm
15lb 22.75lb 0.40mm 0.39mm
TF Gear Red Mist Mono 10lb 13.5lb 0.32mm 0.31mm
12lb 18.38lb 0.37mm 0.36mm
15lb 21.63lb 0.42mm 0.41mm
18lb 27.88lb 0.47mm 0.46mm
Berkley Trilene XT 10lb 17lb 0.36mm 0.35mm
12lb 22.5lb 0.38mm 0.36mm
14lb 19.5lb 0.40mm 0.37mm
17lb 29.25lb 0.43mm 0.43mm
20lb 23.25lb 0.46mm 0.45mm
Big Game Clear 10lb 13.38lb 0.31mm 0.29mm
12lb 17.75lb 0.36mm 0.34mm
15lb 22.38lb 0.38mm 0.38mm
Big Game Green 10lb 13.88lb 0.31mm 0.30mm
12lb 15.75lb 0.36mm 0.34mm
15lb 20.75lb 0.38mm 0.38mm
Big Game (Carp) Brown 10lb 13.63lb 0.31mm 0.29mm
12lb 17.63lb 0.36mm 0.34mm
15lb 21.5lb 0.38mm 0.38mm
Gardner GR60 12lb 18.75lb 0.35mm 0.35mm
15lb 24lb 0.40mm 0.40mm
GL Pro Gold 6lb 8.38lb 0.255mm 0.24mm
8lb 11.38lb 0.28mm 0.27mm
10lb 11.88lb 0.305mm 0.29mm
12lb 17.5lb 0.355mm 0.35mm
15lb 22lb 0.38mm 0.38mm
GL Pro Clear 10lb 12.13lb 0.26mm 0.26mm
12lb 14.5lb 0.29mm 0.29mm
16lb 19.75lb 0.34mm 0.34mm
20lb 24.75lb 0.40mm 0.38mm
Fox Soft Steel Camo 10lb 13.25lb 0.30mm 0.29mm
12lb 17.25lb 0.34mm 0.34mm
15lb 22.63lb 0.39mm 0.37mm
Drennan Double Strength 8lb 8lb 0.22mm 0.22mm
10lb 9.63lb 0.235mm 0.24mm
12lb 10lb 0.26mm 0.27mm
15lb 13.37lb 0.285mm 0.29mm
Sufix Magic Touch 8lb 12.25lb 0.25mm 0.28mm
10lb 14lb 0.28mm 0.29mm
12lb 16.88lb 0.30mm 0.35mm
15lb 21.75lb 0.35mm 0.40mm
Sufix Memory Free Black 15lb 15.88lb Unstated 0.38mm
20lb 23.75lb Unstated 0.45mm
30lb 33lb Unstated 0.56mm
Sufix Memory Free Clear 15lb 16.75lb Unstated 0.37mm
20lb 21lb Unstated 0.45mm
30lb 34.75lb Unstated 0.55mm
Korda XTough 20lb 24.88lb Unstated 0.47mm
30lb 28.75lb Unstated 0.55mm
ESP Stiff Rig 15lb 24.75lb 0.43mm 0.42mm
20lb 29.5lb 0.47mm 0.45mm
25lb 39.25lb 0.53mm 0.52mm
FLUOROCARBON
Korda IQ 10lb 11.88lb Unstated 0.29mm
15lb 14.25lb Unstated 0.33mm
20lb 18.75lb Unstated 0.47mm
25lb 21.38lb Unstated 0.44mm
Korda IQ Xtra Soft 10lb 8.88lb Unstated 0.27mm
12lb 10lb Unstated 0.30mm
15lb 11.25lb Unstated 0.31mm
20lb 16.75lb Unstated 0.40mm
Grand Max Riverge 12.5lb 10lb 0.24mm 0.25mm
14.5lb 11.88lb 0.26mm 0.28mm
16.5lb 13lb 0.285mm 0.30mm
18lb 15.13lb 0.33mm 0.33mm
22lb 21lb 0.36mm 0.38mm
ESP Ghost 10lb 10.75lb 0.33mm 0.32mm
12lb 12lb 0.35mm 0.34mm
15lb 16.13lb 0.41mm 0.42mm
18lb 16.5lb 0.45mm 0.44mm
CRU Clearwater 10lb 12.5lb Unstated 0.28mm
12lb 12.25lb Unstated 0.29mm
15lb 16.25lb Unstated 0.33mm
Prologic XLNT Spectrum 12.5lb 10lb 0.24mm 0.25mm
14.5lb 11.88lb 0.26mm 0.28mm
16.5lb 13lb 0.285mm 0.30mm
18lb 15.13lb 0.33mm 0.33mm
22lb 21lb 0.36mm 0.38mm
Rig Marole 10lb 9.25lb 0.30mm 0.29mm
20lb 21lb 0.45mm 0.50mm
X Lline 12lb 9.38lb 0.26mm 0.28mm
15lb 10.25lb 0.31mm 0.29mm
17lb 11.13lb 0.33mm 0.31mm
20lb 12.63lb 0.37mm 0.35mm
BRAID
Berkley Fireline Braid 10lb 17.75lb Unstated 0.22mm
14lb 21.38lb Unstated 0.28mm
20lb 26.38lb Unstated 0.34mm
30lb 38.13lb Unstated 0.43mm
Berkley Fireline XDS Braid 8lb 10.5lb 0.13mm 0.17mm
17lb 20.5lb 0.19mm 0.22mm
25lb 18.13lb 0.23mm 0.27mm
Whiplash Pro Braid 20lb 15.75lb 0.20mm 0.18mm
30lb 21.75lb 0.25mm 0.20mm
Nash Bullet Braid 15lb 18.88lb Unstated 0.34mm
20lb 20.75lb Unstated 0.36mm
25lb 23lb Unstated 0.40mm
Gravitron Braid 15lb 14.25lb Unstated 0.28mm
25lb 21.88lb Unstated 0.32mm
Explorer Braid 20lb 18.63lb Unstated 0.38mm
Dynon SK Braid 22lb 19.88lb Unstated 0.30mm
34lb 27.25lb Unstated 0.39mm
Spiderwire Stealth Braid 20lb 22.25lb Unstated 0.26mm
30lb 28.25lb Unstated 0.29mm
TF Gear Banana Braid 30lb 24lb 0.28mm 0.24mm
Fox TB Spod Braid 30lb 27.83lb Unstated 0.32mm




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znači ako sam dobro shvatio prvo je nosivost koja je deklarirana od strane proizvođača pa nosivost koja je izmjerena , onda debljina koja je navedena na proizvodu i zatim debljina koja je izmjerena...kod najlona nosivost koja je izmjerena u večini slučaja je veča od navedene što je dobro a debljina ili ista ili malo manja od one koju je naveo proizvođač kolko se sječam prije par godina su u Tackleboxu testirali najlon i večina promjera koje su izmjerili bila je veča od navedene na špulama...izgleda da je tu došlo do pomaka na bolje tj izgleda da sada proizvođači navode točnije podatke a mogu reči da znam ponekad odnjet na posao flaks koji kupiom da izmjerim debljinu i (osim kod Sufixa Magic touch) nisam vidio neka veča odstupanja...
a flourocarboni ko flourocarboni ja još nisam stekao povjerenje u njih

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tako je Tom.... a sufix maguc touch....ono... :? down: down: down:

ali i danas sam mislio da kad kupujem recimo 0,31 da je 034 recimo, al evo vidi se kako kazes da se unazad par godine stvar promijenila... na bolje naravno, nosivost veca od deklarirane a promjer uglavnom isti...i sad kad neko kaze s ovako kvalitetnim najlonom.... " e stari strgalo mi 0,45"... peace

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[quote="ToM-XL"] prije par godina su u Tackleboxu testirali najlon i večina promjera koje su izmjerili bila je veča od navedene na špulama...izgleda da je tu došlo do pomaka na bolje tj izgleda da sada proizvođači navode točnije podatke a mogu reči da znam ponekad odnjet na posao flaks koji kupiom da izmjerim debljinu i (osim kod Sufixa Magic touch) nisam vidio neka veča odstupanja...
a flourocarboni ko flourocarboni ja još nisam stekao povjerenje u njih


ako se ne varam, ovo i je iz Tacklebox-a..

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Evo Supra da dam pohvalu za tvoj trud u vezi najlona, i da nekazeš kako te samo kudim.
Zanima me koji je trenutno najbolji najlon na trzištu cjena nije bitna.
Do sad sam imao Quantumov Salsa crveni 0,30mm bio sam sa njim svega 5-6 puta u ribolovu.I u zadnjem ribolovu prilikom zabacivanja sistema počeo je pucati sam odsebe bez da sam negdje zapeo.
Moje mišljenje je da se najvjerovatnije pohabao prilikom silinih zabacivanje bez šok lidera.


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